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33 Winchester anyone?
Oct 7th, 2020 at 8:47am
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Looking for hunting loads for this round in a single shot rifle.
Either cast or jacketed bullets.
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Re: 33 Winchester anyone?
Reply #1 - Oct 7th, 2020 at 12:38pm
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Middle of range 200 G jacketed
32 gr  4198
38 3031
41 4895
  
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Reply #2 - Dec 17th, 2020 at 1:19pm
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I shoot a 200 grain FNGC cast bullet over 35.5 grains of imr 4895 in my 86 Winchester. Deadly on hogs.
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 17th, 2020 at 1:59pm
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Fresh off the latest 1940's Ideal Handbook.  Tom
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 12:29pm
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I've brought lots of whitetail deer to bag with a .33WCF '86 Win. - always using the now-discontinued Hornady 200gr. JFP.

200gr. Hornady FP; formed R-P .45-70 brass; Rem.9 1/2; 40.0gr. IMR-3031; OAL 2.795" - 2112fps ave vel. (24" bbl.)

I'm looking forward to trying out the relatively "new" Hornady rubber tip .200gr. FTX bullets on game in this rifle. They shoot to almost the same POI as the JFPs at 100 yds. and have a noticeably flatter trajectory at 200 yds - (but haven't tried them beyond that). I use the same components and the same 40.0gr. charge of IMR-3031...but seat the FTX to a cartridge OAL of 2.690" - ave. MV 2187fps.

I believe Hornady still lists loads for the .33WCF and their 200gr. bullets in their comprehensive reloading manual, with recent manuals substituting the FTX for the JFP.
  
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Reply #5 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 11:54pm
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I've killed a few white tails with a. 33, it's a little bit overkill but not to bad. 
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Reply #6 - Dec 25th, 2020 at 4:52pm
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I had a 1886 Winchester in .33 Winchester for a couple weeks. Round barrel short magazine. Beautiful rifle in mint condition. I got talked into selling it. Money talks. 
  

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Reply #7 - Dec 25th, 2020 at 5:36pm
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westerner wrote on Dec 25th, 2020 at 4:52pm:
I had a 1886 Winchester in .33 Winchester for a couple weeks. Round barrel short magazine. Beautiful rifle in mint condition. I got talked into selling it. Money talks. 

Those lightweight rifles in that configuration chambered for .33WCF used to be "cheap". In the 1970s or earlier, they could be bought for little more than a nice '94 in .30WCF because few folks were interested in chasing down rounds for the obsolete cartridge or forming brass themselves. I bought mine in the early 1970s strictly because it was the only M-1886 I could afford AND it came with case forming dies. The '86 .33s still command much less than all other '86s chambered for any of the other cartridges. I love the .33WCF. It looks like a super-duper .30-30 - plus it hits like a sledge hammer and penetrates deep.  Smiley
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 25th, 2020 at 9:31pm
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xtimberman wrote on Dec 25th, 2020 at 5:36pm:
westerner wrote on Dec 25th, 2020 at 4:52pm:
I had a 1886 Winchester in .33 Winchester for a couple weeks. Round barrel short magazine. Beautiful rifle in mint condition. I got talked into selling it. Money talks. 

Those lightweight rifles in that configuration chambered for .33WCF used to be "cheap". In the 1970s or earlier, they could be bought for little more than a nice '94 in .30WCF because few folks were interested in chasing down rounds for the obsolete cartridge or forming brass themselves. I bought mine in the early 1970s strictly because it was the only M-1886 I could afford AND it came with case forming dies. The '86 .33s still command much less than all other '86s chambered for any of the other cartridges. I love the .33WCF. It looks like a super-duper .30-30 - plus it hits like a sledge hammer and penetrates deep.  Smiley


Your post jogged my memory. Thats it in a nutshell. I remember wishing it was a pistol grip long magazine 45-90. I'd still have it.
  

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Reply #9 - Dec 31st, 2020 at 10:44am
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Had a couple 1895 Marlins in .33 Win. and same thing for them too. The old 1895 Marlins got such high prices I didn't want to spring for one. But in .33 Win. they were almost a bargain price. Cheap enough that one of mine was a takedown version, and was less money than any .45-70 solid frame 1895 I'd seen for sale.
I never hunted with mine, and both got sold to fund the Ballard fever. But I love the cartridge, and think it's one of the best ever. My feeling was the .348 Win killed the .33 Win. back then. Once it hit the market nobody wanted a .33 anymore, even when ammo was available.
  

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Reply #10 - Jan 1st, 2021 at 12:13am
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It looks like a super-duper .30-30...


It is a super 30 WCF. Same bullet SD, same fps, but 20% more mass.

Like others here, I've always thought it "looked right" even if I couldn't explain why. Dave Higginbotham offered to do one of his rolling blocks in it, but I went with the more common 30-40. I figured I'd avoid case forming, but Krag brass has been scarce the last few years (but I have a good supply on hand).
  

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Reply #11 - Jan 22nd, 2021 at 3:47pm
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When I first started hunting deer in Maine 1964 I hunted with a pre 64 M70 in .257 Roberts for two years. Same story both years clean shots, they were dead but just did not know it. Had to trail them and did get them but was unhappy because I did not consider them CLEAN Kills. So went home and spoke to a Gunsmith and told him I wanted a Rifle that would be a clean humane Hunting rifle. Pulled out an 86 Winchester he had in .33 Winchester with a barrel he had made himself. Chased down dies and Bullets .200 Gr. round nose. It shot really good, since that time I have taken 9 Deer with it none ever got a leg back under them. Found the 3031 and 4064 worked fine no matter which was used. still have the .257 Roberts and the .33 Winchester, just don't want to part with either
of them. Hunting should be a Humane activity with no significant suffering on the 
Game side. Now I have them coming into my back field to graze under Pear tree's. I just enjoy seeing them there. No desire to hunt that way. Well good luck to all in the future. Regards FITZ OLDTUCK. Smiley
  
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Reply #12 - Jan 22nd, 2021 at 4:23pm
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I took a half dozen deer with a 270W. 130 grain bullets. One shot per animal.
  

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Reply #13 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 9:50am
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My 33 Win high wall build is out for blueing. Found a decent stick of lumber that whittled out to a decent stock.
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Reply #14 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 10:38am
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Really lovely stock work, derrickman!

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