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25-20SS Choices
Feb 21st, 2021 at 8:05pm
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Got lucky last week, was in the process of buying a Low Wall 38-40 from a chap in NSW when I mentioned that I was just about to start on having a 25-20SS built using an existing 32-20 Low Wall and original 25-20SS barrel (needs re-lining), when he said "how would you like a mint condition one instead?" Said yes and got the details of the current owner. Apparently the rifle was bought in 1910 and fired a bit, but they broke the firing pin, so just put it away, until a few years ago when he acquired it. Has had a new (original) firing pin installed, my question is, I was going to mount an old Mosberg external adjustment scope on my re-build, do you think I should leave this one untouched or get the scope mounted? All comments will be appreciated, thanks.
  
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Reply #1 - Feb 21st, 2021 at 8:18pm
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If the original condition is high, then leave it alone. Use the re-build to add the scope. Just my view after collecting for many years.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 21st, 2021 at 9:11pm
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How much to Aussie anti-gun laws enter into your decision?
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 21st, 2021 at 11:46pm
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Aussie gun laws have no impact, I tend to agree with leaving the rifle unmolested, will await further feedback, thanks, d.
  
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Reply #4 - Feb 22nd, 2021 at 12:02am
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There are also ways to mount a scope without drilling and tapping, and harming the collector value, although drilling and tapping in the right place and mounting a period scope, as a Lyman 5A or Winchester A5 or Stevens does not necessarily reduce the value that much, if at all. I guess it all boils down to, if you want to shoot it, or have it buried in a safe as a potential investment. I feel you are better off enjoying it while able, and put your money in a high yield CD. Not that those exist right now, at least here.
  

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Reply #5 - Feb 22nd, 2021 at 10:43pm
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Use the proper mount spacing and go for it, it won't affect the value to speak of. 
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Reply #6 - Feb 23rd, 2021 at 1:27pm
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Thanks again,d.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 24th, 2021 at 1:47am
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Or use a good set of tang sites, either originals or some of the fine reproductions. No extra holes  Smiley
  
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Reply #8 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 4:12am
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Have a spare Shaver sight (mid-range), but was keeping it for a 40-65 Husqvarna Roller build, will go I think with building the old Winchester 25-20 bbl that needs re-lining, and drop the scope onto it and leave the  "mint" Low Wall alone, this will depend on how many empty cases I get from the original buyer, of the rifle if it is more than say 20, I don't believe I can call the rifle "mint". I would then consider that mounting a period scope on it to NOT be a dimunition of its value, and would do so, thus saving another "85 for something else. I am a recent convert/accolyte to the "BLACK" art an have to say am loving it, but so much to learn, fortunately all the black powder shooters I have encountered, whether they be muzzle or cartridge, are so  forthcoming with "knowledge" experience, it is quite humbling, I, at my advanced age look foward to a lot more learning, which this site is in the forefront of, thank you, d.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 26th, 2021 at 5:54pm
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When I first got interested in the Schuetzen game I lucked into a first or second year production high wall in 32-20 with a near perfect bore in a #2 octagon barrel.† The little rifle was in Antique Excellent +++ condition and I couldnít bring myself to alter it in any way.† I put on an old Lyman tang sight, but couldnít be competitive with it. Over 25 years later I still regret selling it, but I needed to move that money into building my offhand rifle.† †Undecided Cry

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PS† I still donít think Iíd be able to bring myself to drill and tap it if I owned it today, but Iíd be having a ball with it at Ram Bashes!† Wink
  
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Reply #10 - Feb 27th, 2021 at 12:12pm
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Myself I would not hesitate drilling and taping a 7.2 scope block spacing. What would be the difference if Winchester had done it or now yourself. There is a purpose for it and was commonly done on original rifles by several makers and it still is. Might have to find another scope to use I am not familiar with the one you mentioned and if it would work with the 7.2 spacing or possibly not.
  

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Re: 25-20SS Choices
Reply #11 - Feb 27th, 2021 at 1:45pm
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JLouis wrote on Feb 27th, 2021 at 12:12pm:
Myself I would not hesitate drilling and taping a 7.2 scope block spacing. What would be the difference if Winchester had done it or now yourself. There is a purpose for it and was commonly done on original rifles by several makers and it still is. Might have to find another scope to use I am not familiar with the one you mentioned and if it would work with the 7.2 spacing or possibly not.


The difference is, if it had been done at the factory, the roll marks would have been placed one flat down... if you drill and tap that one where the blocks need to be you go right through the factory markings for the rear scope block.  Undecided

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Reply #12 - Feb 27th, 2021 at 2:10pm
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That I fully understand but how many were sent back to have it done after the fact. This was a common practice back in the day when any firearm could be sent back for any additional requested work to be done. The only way to really tell is to spend the money to get it lettered by the Cody museum which would include any additional work. Very few originals are actually sold along with such a letter and as stated earlier does it really have that much affect on the re-selling price. Especially now when collectors are now dying off and their collections are being sold off. I personally don't see very many who now have an interest and pretty much like going back in the 60's when people would just walk by them at a gun show.
  

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Re: 25-20SS Choices
Reply #13 - Feb 27th, 2021 at 7:15pm
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Thank you all again for your inputs, as I said prior, will wait until I have it in my hot little hands, before making any final decision, agree, if correct spacings, shouldn't adversely affect the collector "value", and I do want to shoot it !!!p.s. on the scope mounts it says "Mossberg No.9 mounts" with an address (Mossberg & Sons New Haven, Conn,U.S.A) the scope appears to have a brass tube and ratchet exterior adjustment knobs. d.
  
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Reply #14 - Feb 27th, 2021 at 9:19pm
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Bottom line is it is yours so do what you want to be able to take it and to shoot it and to enjoy it. A couple of properly spaced holes might actually help to sell it so the next guy can also take it out and to do the same. Without having to worry if he should or should not drill and tap those four holes that are now already there. Typical cost around here is $15.00 dollars a hole and some even charge more.
  

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