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Reply #45 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 9:14pm
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Twist rate actually depends on the bullet being used. This is a 200 yard target with a Douglas 15 twist and all of the data is on the bottom of this Target. I spent a year with it in Schuetzen benchrest competition but the recoil was in all honesty just abit to much for me. Shot several nice targets during that time and this just happened to be my best.

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Reply #46 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 9:42pm
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John Louis, how much did the CPA weigh?
  
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Reply #47 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 9:05am
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JLouis wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 9:14pm:
Twist rate actually depends on the bullet being used. This is a 200 yard target with a Douglas 15 twist and all of the data is on the bottom of this Target. I spent a year with it in Schuetzen benchrest competition but the recoil was in all honesty just abit to much for me. Shot several nice targets during that time and this just happened to be my best.


That's some nice shooting JL. As far as what I want , I understand that the 38-55 single shot is normally a mid-range rifle (100 - 500 yds) but some folks commented earlier in this thread if I wanted to go further I would need a heavy projectile (275-300g) and the 1:12 Twist rate if I wanted any kind of accuracy at the longer distances.

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Reply #48 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 9:30am
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George Babits wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 9:09pm:
Yes, the .375 groove works very well. I have a 1 1/2 emington rolling block that was rebored with that size and it shoots bery well. I also had a Winchester 1894 rebarreled with an octagonal barrel in that diameter and it shot very well too. Anywthing from .375 to about .380 works very well, but the bullet availability is best with a .375 inch groove diameter.

And, the 38-55 is a wonderful caliber. Great for both hunting and target shooting. pretty hard to beat as an all around cartridge.

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Thanks GB much appreciated.

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Reply #49 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 9:50am
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Heard back from the Green Mountain distributor , he has a a 38-55 barrel #W38126-3 in stock - Product Description
.38-55 Cal, 1:14 Twist, 35 Long, 1-2 Receiver Stub, 4140CM, Honed Octagon Tapered BPCR Barrel. #3 Profile- 1.05 at the breech, tapered down to .95 at the muzzle. Button Rifled, Stress Relieved, and Air Gauged.

Looking for feedback on the product and the specs.

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Reply #50 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 10:41am
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Premod70 not sure of the weight its a 28 inch #3 half Oct. to Rd Douglas barrel and rifle a CPA 52 Schuetzen Jr.
  

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Reply #51 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 11:11am
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Retreever I believe Steve Garbe won at least one of his four National Shilloute Championships while shoting his 38-55 at Raton several years back. He shared allot of real valuable information about his journey with that 38-55 in past Black Powder Cartridge News publications. If you or a friend happen to have any of those past articles to reference.
  

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Reply #52 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 11:24am
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My 38-55 Hiwall Helm had a RKS 18 gain twist. Shot A 225 gr very accurate at 200 yds. This was a fixed set up for black powder or smokeless, felt like a 32-40 with a hot load.....
  

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Reply #53 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 11:49am
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JLouis wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 11:11am:
Retreever I believe Steve Garbe won at least one of his four National Shilloute Championships while shoting his 38-55 at Raton several years back. He shared allot of real valuable information about his journey with that 38-55 in past Black Powder Cartridge News publications. If you or a friend happen to have any of those past articles to reference.


Thanks for the tip JL , I checked and you can order back issues I just need to figure which issues the articles are in.

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Reply #54 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 11:56am
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Retreever .95 at the muzzle seems a bit small and do you really need that much barrel length it seems a bit long but that is just my own opinion. Was trying to picture just how it might look on a rifle based on a friend's 36 inch barrel on an original 441/2 Stevens and it looked quite odd and out of proportion.
  

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Reply #55 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 12:25pm
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Retreever unfortunately I gave my entire collection to a friend or I could have found it for you. You might just try contacting Steve Garbe directly he and his wife started the publication and he was still the editor in 2017 not sure about now. Maybe Joe  / Westener might be able to help you find his contact information or it might possibly be in the BPCNews. Joe has shot quite allot of Schuetzen matches with Steve and why I thought he might be able to help as they are probably also good friends. 
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Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot
Reply #56 - May 1st, 2021 at 10:15am
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Ok, just to update everybody - the 1881 Spanish Roller is going ahead as a 45-70 project - parts I needed arrived yesterday so off to the gunsmiths next week.

I bought a 1902 Remington Roller #1 action yesterday and that's the one I will use for the 38-55 build. I have found (2) barrel options which I would like feedback on.

(a) 1.25" Unturned barrel blank - bore size is 0.375, 28" barrel with option for 1:10 or 1:12 twist . ( I'm assuming in addition to everything else I would be spending money to have this milled to an octagon shape).

(b) .38-55 Cal, 1:14 Twist, 35 Long, 1-2 Receiver Stub, 4140CM, Honed Octagon Tapered BPCR Barrel. #3 Profile- 1.05 at the breech, tapered down to .95 at the muzzle. Button Rifled, Stress Relieved, and Air Gauged.

Note: (b) is twice the price of (a) but I'm also assuming the extra milling would pretty much even out the cost so I am leaning toward (b).

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Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot
Reply #57 - May 1st, 2021 at 11:54am
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Except for the twist rate B sounds like a Green Mountain barrel #3.5 weight. But the GM barrel I see is a 1:12" twist, which I'd prefer over 1:14" twist.

W381236-3.5X 35 .38-55 Cal #3.5 Profile Honed Tapered Octagon BPCR.

I'd even prefer a #4 weight myself, but I see they're out of stock.
  

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Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot
Reply #58 - May 1st, 2021 at 11:57am
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my 14 twist 38/55 shoots very well with the 330 grain lyman bullet and black powder.  once had a 12 twist and didn't like it   art
  
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Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot
Reply #59 - May 1st, 2021 at 12:28pm
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It sounds like you are having to compromise. When you can get a blank profiled exactly the way that you want it from CPA. The last one I ordered for myself was a profiled and polished 28 inch 1/2 octagon to round #3 Douglas and the price was very fair.
As is the cost for just an unturned blank.
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