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Jun 26th, 2021 at 9:44am
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Looking for a shooting rest (bench rest). Looking at the Caldwell bench rest model - looks like it might be oK for the $ .. ?
Have had thoughts about building one - I do have the tools, any one seen plans ?
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 26th, 2021 at 11:27am
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If serious about a owning a good rest look at the Randolph rest. You also have to pick out the top you want. Or if needing more height for a traditional style rifle you can make your own to suit your needs. My own is shown below. 

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Reply #2 - Jun 26th, 2021 at 4:41pm
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Reproduction of Bald Eagle Windage Top.

If you are able to borrow a rest and the owner allows you to disassemble it for measurements you can make a duplicate.
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 26th, 2021 at 9:55pm
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Thanks for the responses guys, gives me some ideas. Smiley
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 12:06am
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A Caldwell Bench Rest model front rest was my first step up from a real cheap front rest. It did well for me, but got to be very frustrating after a number of years. 

As my shooting ability improved the Caldwell began to drive me nuts with it's inability to track straight while adjusting for elevation. And, contrary to what they advertise, it has no provision for real windage adjustment.

I finally bought a Randolph rest (as recommended to you by JLouis) and have never looked back. It truly is a fantastic rest. 

As with most things we buy to play this game, buy once, cry once is sound advise. 

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Reply #5 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 1:03am
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I bought one from Joe Cowan a long time ago, he is an instructor at a college and the money goes for a good cause.  I have zero issues or complaints and it is a great rest for the money.  I am not sure if he still makes them though.  I run Protektor bags front and rear with black sand.  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 1:18am
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There are quite a number of very good rests available. Most built for the short range benchrest folks. I either own or have used many from the first, a Wichita, a Hart rest, with a later addition windage top, to a Farley. I, for years now, very often use a shop built windage rest made and used by Joe Pfeifer in the late 40's. It is extremely heavy, and very well made. Without it in front of me, I believe the column is 3 or so inches in diameter, and the whole rest weighs in the neighborhood of 30 lbs. I purchased it from his son, some 30 years ago. I guess it is just a good fit with these old rifles. The Hart is still a good rest, as is the Farley, the Randolph, the Loh, and a host of others. I would say spend the money for a well built and recommended rest, learn to use it properly, and as Jerry H said, never look back.
  

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Reply #7 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 4:49pm
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Bald eagle rest at Grizzly goes on sale occasionally.  There is a windage modification on rimfirecentral.com that makes it a lot better. 

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Reply #8 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 6:16pm
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Thanks guys, just spent the afternoon in the shop on the lathe and mill, working from the photo that Schuetzendave posted (with a couple modifications of course). Probably 2 or 3 more afternoons before she's ready for a trial run, I'll post a picture when I'm done.
Thanks for the help.
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 9:10pm
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Cuslog - I reside 3 hours north in St. Albert.

780-460-8732 if you have any enquiries.

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Reply #10 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 9:45pm
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Thanks Dave, yes, maybe.
Actually, we met once or twice - once at Ron Smith's place about 2016 or so, I was there with a Highwall I had built from scratch (not quite finished). Then again at Hefley in 2016 - haven't made it back since (and moved to Calgary since too).
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 12:00am
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Knew a member on our old range in Huntington,Long Island NY. Worked as a machinist for one of the now long ago aircraft companies on Long Island. He had one he made out of brass and bronze. Must have hit every scrap yard on Long Island. Triangular 3/4" bronze plate, brass legs, center column was about 3" in diameter with internal threaded center for a brass elevation rod and capstan wheel to adjust. And about the most complicated windage top I have ever seen. Used a modified hand cart to move it from his car to the bench. More than one shooter lusted over that one. May not have had all the bells and whistles but when polished up sure did look good. Frank
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:47am
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hello 
I also meet you at Rons when you were showing your action
I make a rest that you are welcome to take measurements ect
if you want to build one
and i live in langdon  so pretty close
see attached photo 
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Reply #13 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:58am
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Will:

What is the white material? Delrin? or finished with?
Are base materials steel and/or aluminum?
Do you do anodizing?

Looks Pretty Good Will.

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Reply #14 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 11:08am
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its powder coating over steel and aluminum components
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Reply #15 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 11:08am
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Cuslog - when we met at Ron's were you the fellow with the High Wall with the nicely drawn and filed and polished  octagon stainless steel RKS barrel? It had great sharp corners.


  
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Reply #16 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 12:44pm
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Yes, that was me !
Since then, built my own rifling machine / making my own barrels.
Still learning though, not yet as good as Ron's.
  
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Reply #17 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 12:47pm
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Are you making straight twist or have you copied the Pope/Ron Smith gain twist rifling technique? 
Do you have a deep depth boring machine?
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm
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Just straight twist for now. Machine I built will deep hole drill, ream and cut rifling. Bores I'm getting I'm pretty happy with, grooves - not so much - look a bit "scratchy". Probably just cutter sharpening technique or maybe the material. I'm still playing around in 4140 chromoly, haven't tried 416R yet.
  
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Reply #19 - Jul 12th, 2021 at 12:49pm
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Just a follow-up. After reading the responses, I went out to the shop and built one, based loosely on the photo from Schuetzendave. Built from off cuts / scraps left over from other projects. (Obviously, bought the bags.) Still need to pick up a couple of thumb knobs. A bit taller than some others - trying to sit a bit more erect at the bench - seems to help with the recoil from a 45/70 with a crescent butt plate. Roll Eyes Something to start with anyway, may build another some day - after discovering the shortcomings of this one.
  
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Reply #20 - Jul 12th, 2021 at 2:34pm
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That'd very nice, cuslog, and I'd never guess it was made from "scraps".

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Reply #21 - Jul 12th, 2021 at 3:47pm
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With different rifle stock configurations or having to shoot a distance uphill I have found you can run out of elevation adjustment.

So I make a couple of sets of screws for the tripod feet that allows me to obtain the additional elevation that my bench rest requires.

I need the long ones to shoot uphill at the Stars & Stripes Schuetzen Range at Nine Mile Falls, WA.
  
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Reply #22 - Jul 12th, 2021 at 3:59pm
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Nice job and it should work well for your own personal needs.
  

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Reply #23 - Jul 12th, 2021 at 5:33pm
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Schuetzendave wrote on Jul 12th, 2021 at 3:47pm:
With different rifle stock configurations or having to shoot a distance uphill I have found you can run out of elevation adjustment.

So I make a couple of sets of screws for the tripod feet that allows me to obtain the additional elevation that my bench rest requires.

I need the long ones to shoot uphill at the Stars & Stripes Schuetzen Range at Nine Mile Falls, WA.


Tried it out last week before paint - at a relatively flat range, I was pretty much bottomed out and it worked OK - 5 or so inches of vertical adjustment left for those uphill ranges - and 2" L/R for those sidehill ones. Wink
  
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Reply #24 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 9:30am
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I really Hate the "spiked" screw feet that will destroy nicely
made bench tops. 
I use rubber cane tips to cover the spikes on my Caldwell
Bench Rest. I think just as good as the spikes digging into the wood bench tops
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Reply #25 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 9:46am
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All the ranges I shoot at have cement tops and the feet do not cause any damage to them.
  
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Reply #26 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 9:54am
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Ha !
Kinda off topic but:
I've had bloody elbows from shooting my 45/70 with 535 gr. / 67gr BP loads. Recoil so fierce my elbows were skidding on the rubber bench tops. Looked down and wondered where the heck the blood was coming from.
Next rifle will be a 38-55 or maybe even 32-40 and lighter bullets ! Wink
  
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Reply #27 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 10:09am
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Cuslog,
That is why I wear elbow pads when shooting the larger calibers off the bench, including BPCR and also more heavy recoiling modern rifles
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Reply #28 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 3:47pm
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Will, do you sell your rests? If so do you have additional info?
  
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Reply #29 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 5:54pm
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"Old Ugly" Built in 1990.A friend built two of them,can change out cradles,side adjust,plenty of elevation. I have a Randle Rest also...
  

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Reply #30 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 5:59pm
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Another...and its HEAVY!
Very nice Rests you build Will!
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Reply #31 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 7:20pm
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hello bnice 
yes i do i believe i have sent you a pm
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Reply #32 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 9:35pm
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Reply #33 - Jul 15th, 2021 at 10:02am
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Will is the elevation adjustments belt driven like the Randolf. 
Nice job I like the wide stance.
  

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Reply #34 - Jul 15th, 2021 at 5:28pm
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yes it is 
it seems to make for a very smooth adjustment
and depending on the ratio used it can be quite a fine adjustment
really its a user preference
  
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