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Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Oct 10th, 2021 at 1:57pm
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I'm currently in the process of building this little guy (it's one of Rodney's casting sets) and I'm struggling with what chambering to make it.† Don't need another 22 long rifle and really want it centerfire anyway.† I was planning on a 32-20 originally but am having second thoughts being a bit concerned about a modern higher pressure load fired in it.† I see some modern loads are pushing it to 2100-2200 feet per second.† Not that I will push it, I plan on using cast velocities but one never knows where it might end up in the future and I want a safe gun.† This guy is small, measures from the front of the frame to the rear extension 1 3/4 inches, probably be a 1 inch barrel and has a 3/4x20 shank that is 1/2 inch long. The minimum side wall is just over .125 and thats in the grove cut for the latch spring.† I don't seem to be able to find the pressure produced at 2200 feet per second but it has to be pretty high, I believe I've seen 26000 mentioned somewhere for 1600 feet per second.† There is one of this original actions with a 32-20 chamber but it's obviously not original.† For as small as it is it's a pretty beefy little frame and I understand this needs to be my decision in the end but would be interested in some opinions of using the 32-20.† Would also be open to other chamberings that might be suggested but at this point it will be a 25-20ss if not the 32-20.† Some photos of the action in process.† An overall photo, one with the breech open and one closed.

I see CPA has barrels with 1-14 twist for a 32-20.† The originals look to be 1-20 and have seen 1-18 talked about.† Lots to think about!† Any opinions are appreciated.
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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #1 - Oct 10th, 2021 at 2:38pm
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Bob you are way ahead of me Iíve just got The blocks and lever fitted on the two that Iím doing. I was going to do the 250 Morris long as itís actually at 22 and I happen to pick up a rearmer a few years ago on eBay. Then the other one was going to be 2520 SS. Regarding the 3220 I think itís a strong little action I donít think it would be a problem but of course my opinion is worth what you paid for it.Also itís looking good you do good work thanks for sharing.
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 10th, 2021 at 2:55pm
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Just my 2c here. That is an action that I am considering. I am very sure that Rodney uses better material than was available when those actions were produced. I was thinking of having mine in .357 mag or possibly max. Structure wise, there should be nothing to stop me from doing that and I am very sure that the proof house will verify that on proofing it.
  
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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #3 - Oct 10th, 2021 at 6:41pm
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Is he still selling there small actions? I would like to build one in 218 bee
  
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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #4 - Oct 10th, 2021 at 7:46pm
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I just checked I have three left in stock. I do have the prints for them. They are made of 8620 except for the springs. Designed to be case hardened Making it tough and hard on the surface. Are use a three-quarter 16 tap for the barrel thread. I think it would be great for 218 Bee. I have a reamer when you get barreled up if you want to borrow youíre welcome to use it.
  
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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #5 - Oct 10th, 2021 at 11:06pm
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32 S&W Long is perfect for a squirrel and rabbit centerfire gun
  
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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #6 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 12:41am
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Aside from availability, one of the rook rifle rounds would be fitting. I do believe that some can be formed from available brass. The 310 cadet being one, essentially a 32-20.
  

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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #7 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 2:24am
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That's as cute as  a bugs ear,  it would make a dandy 22 hornet.
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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #8 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 2:51pm
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I have been reading about the old .256 Mag, and that would also make a good candidate. Definitely be something not common anymore. 
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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #9 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 6:58pm
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Rodney, this action has definitely been interesting and challenging.† Spent lots more time pondering and calculating than machining.† Still lots of fine tuning but she is fully functional.

Thanks for the replies.† Between what has been said here, and emails from others, I decided I still want one of the two I mentioned.† Since I have not made up my mind, but am leaning toward the 32-20, I ordered both barrels from BRC today.† The extra gives me a reason to build something else!† They had the 25 but have to make the 32.
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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #10 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 8:52pm
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I see you've already decided, but it crossed my mind to mention that among the traditional rook cartridges there is the 360 Rook No. 5, which is a 38 special case (or maybe a lightly trimmed one, can't remember).
  
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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #11 - Oct 12th, 2021 at 1:59am
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I'd go for a fast-twist 32-20 with a .30 barrel.  Actually, that's what I did with my Small BSA Martini  Smiley
  
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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #12 - Oct 12th, 2021 at 9:08am
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Rodney I sent you a PM
  
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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #13 - Oct 12th, 2021 at 12:00pm
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The BRC 32 barrel is 16 twist.
  
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Re: Dan Fraser Miniature Rook
Reply #14 - Oct 12th, 2021 at 12:19pm
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Yes, the BRC 32-20 barrel (.312) is a 16 twist. The BRC 32 barrel (.321) is just a hair faster than a 15 twist. The BRC 30 barrels (308) are 8 and 10 twist.
  
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