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Reply #15 - Oct 12th, 2021 at 7:45pm
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  That's not Emmert's lube.
  

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Reply #16 - Oct 12th, 2021 at 7:47pm
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The actual Lube Recipe from Buck himself.


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Reply #17 - Oct 12th, 2021 at 8:10pm
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One mistake that has been made by more then I can say with Emerts is not making sure the Crisco and liquid lube are unsalted! My first schutzen rifle I bought was a Number one ruger with a pitted out barrel because of this mistake. I’ve seen several since then, one recently. I also used Emery’s originally but the year at Raton (90’s plus temp) when I pulled my bullets out and all the lube was in the bottom of the box not on the bullets I switched to Javalina.
  
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Reply #18 - Oct 12th, 2021 at 9:23pm
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I personally never had much luck with it and Leading was typically my own results. But there is one in our group who has shot over 52 each 250's with it in practice outings while I have been sitting next to him. And several were back to back.
  

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Reply #19 - Oct 12th, 2021 at 10:22pm
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The best lube I've found for pan lubing is my own mix 10%  rendered Racoon oil and 90% beeswax. Works good at all  temperatures and no leading. 
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Reply #20 - Oct 12th, 2021 at 10:41pm
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I hit a coon about the size of a small bear near Fort Benton one time.  I stopped to make sure he didn't do any damage to front of the truck and then proceeded on to Glasgow. When I related the incident to Mike Otterberg he asked me why I didn't load him up in the truck. Turns out Mike uses coon oil for bullet lube and patch lube amoung other things.  

Had I known, I would have fetched that coon.  I saw one in Idaho Falls the other day, expired in the road.  Wondering now if I should have sent it to Mike. Can you ship dead coons in the mail?  Huh
  

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Reply #21 - Oct 12th, 2021 at 11:06pm
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westerner wrote on Oct 12th, 2021 at 10:41pm:
I hit a coon about the size of a small bear near Fort Benton one time.  I stopped to make sure he didn't do any damage to front of the truck and then proceeded on to Glasgow. When I related the incident to Mike Otterberg he asked me why I didn't load him up in the truck. Turns out Mike uses coon oil for bullet lube and patch lube amoung other things.  

Had I known, I would have fetched that coon.  I saw one in Idaho Falls the other day, expired in the road.  Wondering now if I should have sent it to Mike. Can you ship dead coons in the mail?  Huh


No problem Frozen and packaged well.

They frown on live ones tho Huh
  
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Reply #22 - Oct 12th, 2021 at 11:36pm
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Thats interesting. Never tried to freeze a live one.   Huh
  

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Reply #23 - Oct 13th, 2021 at 6:57am
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Dellet wrote on Oct 12th, 2021 at 11:06pm:
westerner wrote on Oct 12th, 2021 at 10:41pm:
I hit a coon about the size of a small bear near Fort Benton one time.  I stopped to make sure he didn't do any damage to front of the truck and then proceeded on to Glasgow. When I related the incident to Mike Otterberg he asked me why I didn't load him up in the truck. Turns out Mike uses coon oil for bullet lube and patch lube amoung other things.  

Had I known, I would have fetched that coon.  I saw one in Idaho Falls the other day, expired in the road.  Wondering now if I should have sent it to Mike. Can you ship dead coons in the mail?  Huh


No problem Frozen and packaged well.

They frown on live ones tho Huh


When I worked for one of the7 National Disease Centers, we'd get in frozen diseased animals all the time for testing.  The dangerous ones went into the 100* below freezers.  Usually shipped FedX or UPS


  

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Reply #24 - Oct 13th, 2021 at 9:01am
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Jeff_Schultz wrote on Oct 12th, 2021 at 7:45pm:
  That's not Emmert's lube.


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If you will go back and read what I wrote, I stated that the formula I gave was the "version" I was using.  In other words a take off of the original.  Notice both have beeswax as the solid base, the lard is the Simi solid instead of crisco and olive oil is substituted for Wesson oil.  No where did I state that this was the exact version that Buck Emmert used.

  

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westerner wrote on Oct 12th, 2021 at 10:41pm:
I hit a coon  ... Turns out Mike uses coon oil for bullet lube and patch lube amoung other things.  

Had I known, I would have fetched that coon.  I saw one in Idaho Falls the other day, expired in the road.  Wondering now if I should have sent it to Mike. Can you ship dead coons in the mail?  Huh


Hmmm.  I trap 'coons, wood chucks, and skunks on a regular basis (to control the spread of rabies).  If you want one (or more) I can ship !!
  

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Reply #26 - Oct 13th, 2021 at 10:29am
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I sent your post to Mike.
  

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Reply #27 - Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:24pm
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westerner wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 10:29am:
I sent your post to Mike. 


Have to wait for the next ones trapped.  Just put two in the garbage.  Wink
  

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Reply #28 - Oct 13th, 2021 at 11:45pm
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Just as 830singleshot,
Before I went to Paper Patching, when I was shooting GG bullets in my BPCR rifles,  I made up version of
Emmerts with his formula, except substituting olive oil
for the oil.   I call it Emmertini lube.
After the usual components, I was also adding NAPA Upper valve and assembly lube oil to the tune of 10 % overall.
Worked for me. No leading problems even with mini groove bullets clocking 1350fps.
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Re: Which lube for pan lubing?
Reply #29 - Oct 16th, 2021 at 7:42pm
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One of the beauties of Emmert's lube is that if provides a great starting point for all manner of individualized formulae.  By the time I started making it (at the suggestion of Dale53) the oil (canola or olive) had pretty much been replaced with the old original Crisco™ - unsalted, of course!  I've added a bit of anhydrous lanolin and a dash of Carnauba Wax to mine and it's been pretty consistently a good performer for me.

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