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Stevens 44 /2
Nov 1st, 2021 at 2:40pm
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I knew that my new Stevens would require a good cleaning and some rust abatement but was surprised, when I discovered that it had been fitted with a through bolt.
The rifle has a heavy 25 5/8" barrel, chambered for the 218 Bee. At the time of its through bolt modification, the top tang was shortened and a screw in the lower tang eliminated one or more of the serial numbers. The remaining serial numbers are 3(.375"hole)43. It appears to have had a variety of scope mounts fitted and currently wears a Redfield mount and Weaver scope. The maker is unknown and I have some questions that I hope that someone here can answer.
Does anyone recognize the through bolt modification?
Does anyone know J. BUNCH?
I suspect that the new lower tang hole eliminated one serial number, as a serial number in the 3,000 range makes more sense than one in the 30,000 range. Yes?
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Re: Stevens 44 /2
Reply #1 - Nov 1st, 2021 at 2:41pm
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Here are the remaining photos.
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 1st, 2021 at 4:25pm
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Looks like you will have a fine looking rifle when it is finished. Yes, a serial number in the 3000 range makes since, it certainly wouldn’t be in the 30,000 range, but a three digit number is possible too. I have one in the 800 or 900 range. How about a picture of the bottom of the tang with the serial number?
  
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Re: Stevens 44 /2
Reply #3 - Nov 1st, 2021 at 4:50pm
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I think that I can convince myself that there is a partial #2 at the right edge of the hole.
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 1st, 2021 at 9:05pm
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After looking at a couple of my 44 1/2’s, it looks like the hole obliterating part of the serial number is actually where the original screw location for the mainspring, but drilled and countersunk much larger. There is a space in the serial numbers on my rifles where the threaded hole for the mainspring is,(on either side of of the hole). I agree with you that the partial number sure looks like a 2. I see your rifle is missing the mainspring, do you have one for it?
  
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Re: Stevens 44 /2
Reply #5 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 11:35am
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No missing parts but the parts were dry, with light surface rust and I've disassembled the rifle for a good cleaning.
It looks as if the builder drilled and countersunk the original mainspring screw hole, from the other side. The mainspring is located in its usual location and held in position by the bottom of the through bolt piece.
None of my other Stevens 44 1/2 rifles have a through bolt. Is this a common modification?
Has anyone heard of J. BUNCH?
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Re: Stevens 44 /2
Reply #6 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 11:55am
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In my estimation, chipmaker, your through bolt modification is very clever and well thought out.  And in my collecting experience, such modifications are certainly not "common", especially on Stevens models.

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Reply #7 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 12:27pm
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Does the mortice cut out to accommodate the through bolt attachment go all the way to the face of the action. 
Please post a picture if possible.
  

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Reply #8 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 2:19pm
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Some years ago I did a through-bolt mod to one of my 44s, but I didn't do it like that.  I doubt that's it's common.  

That complex shaped block method might have been conceived to deal with a broken upper tang?
  

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Re: Stevens 44 /2
Reply #9 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 4:01pm
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Attached are photos of the mortice cut and the crack on the right side. Despite the fact that it didn't prevent the cracked stock, I like the retained wood island. I suspect that it helps to strengthen the wrist area.
All the wood to metal contact areas show evidence of epoxy bedding. The original owner is said to be an accomplished target shooter and also interested in varmint rifles but the seller of the rifle had no additional history on the rifle.
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It appears as if the through bolt block used the original mainspring screw hole, on the lower tang and the rear tang sight hole, in the top tang.
The barrel has nine scope mounting holes, suggesting that the rifle has been used with a variety of scopes.The shortened top tang does move the front of the comb forward about 1", which may have helped the original owner obtain optimum eye relief.
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Reply #10 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 5:17pm
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Moving the comb forward souls like a plausible reason.
  

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Reply #11 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 6:07pm
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The back of the frame should have a radius milled in it between the top and bottom tang.  The wood should be inlet tightly into that radius.  By doing this it will greatly improve the strength of the wood to metal fit by anchoring the front of the stock in the frame and would have probably prevented the crack in the spacer block. No amount of epoxy will replace that wood.
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Reply #12 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 6:26pm
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Couple pictures of what I am talking about.  This also hold the front of the stock solid vertically to the frame as well as horizontally.
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Reply #13 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 8:06pm
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Thank you so very much for your reply and your stocks mortice pictures for the through bolt attachment. And the best that I have personally seen to date!
  

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Re: Stevens 44 /2
Reply #14 - Nov 3rd, 2021 at 1:04pm
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Thanks to all for your comments.
I'm still looking for someone who knows who J. BUNCH was/is.
bobw
Yes. The 44 1/2 frame does have the milled radius between the top and bottom of the tangs and the Stevens stocks do have an extension that fits into this area. It seems as if the stocktaker deleted this feature on this stock.
I checked several original Stevens stocks and none have the stock extension tightly inletted into the milled radius. The stock pictured is typical of my factory stocks and the extension is only about .100" long. 
I'd agree that tight inletting between the frame and the front of the stock would increase strength but I'm not sure that this was routinely done by the factory.
Do any Stevens 44 1/2 rifle owners have a rifle with tight inletting into the radius milled inside the frame between the top and bottom tangs?
Does anyone have a picture of how CPA does their through bolt conversion?
Does anyone have a picture of any other Stevens 44 1/2 through bolt conversions?
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